A buddy of mine was looking at an e36 m3 for a fun weekend car. It was 7c outside about 40f when it was time to head out with my 2002 m3 6mt and as usual, i let the car warm up properly before giving it the beans. The 460cc driver comes in a package thats 15 percent lighter than m3 and features a redesigned. They all have six cylinders, and all have allwheel drive. What is the difference between bmw m3 sedan 2015 and audi s4 premium plus 2014. I decided go for one last drive of the season with my summer cars before storing them for winter. The s4 gets better fuel economy, with an estimated 21 mpg in the city and 30 mpg on the highway. E46 m3 vs e92 335i daily driver im currently in the market for a daily driver wanted to get some of your opinions on what would be a more practical daily driver. Decided to do a fun comparison between these cars to see which one you would rather have on a day to day basis.
Our show can be found in various forms in multiple places. I suggested that he take a look an an e46 330i zhp. For updating endurance software, it is necessary to execute the following 2 steps. So, if i was to say f k it, i am going to go for a much more enjoyable daily driver. They are both performanceoriented versions of luxury sedans, and previous generations have competed admirably. I went from all wheel drive to the e90 m3 and would never look back. Thinking about trading in my 2018 tacoma for a sport car with a manual transmission. S is for smoove audi banishes benign from the b9gen sedan and coupe with hotter versions of two of our favorite audi quattros. In the uk, that equates to 5000 m4 and 700 m3 saloon sales. The taylormade m2 was the driver i used for most of 2017 so it was going to be interesting to see if there were clear improvements with the m4. My issue is i have a m3, it is pricey to repair things like the clutch 5k and engine rebuilds cost upwards of 15k. All of the m3s we saw were high mileage of course and many needed work. Find out which is better and their overall performance in the sedan ranking.
Brutal, faster than the e9x m3 in a straight line, sounds better debatable i guess. Based on predicted figures, bmw estimates that a massive 61 per cent of sales will go to the m4 coupe during the cars life cycle, which is followed by 28 per cent for the forthcoming m4 convertible and 11 per cent for the m3 saloon. They are both near the top of the luxury small car class, and they are both performanceoriented variations of popular fourdoor sedans from german manufacturers. Audi s4 vs bmw m3 driving the standard audi a4 is the best driving version ever, with agile handling and a compliant ride offering a great compromise between comfort and control. Audi s4 v mercedesamg c43 sedan comparison caradvice. I also test drove rs5 and that car didnt even come close to dynamic ability of e9x m3. After all, it does have many adjustable settings and you can snap one. The bash takes place in a 50grand neighborhood, with a couple of germans getting all crosseyed on forcefed. The m3 is a great car but much beyond 100k and a lot of expensive things start to break. As long as you dont have to commute in snow, m3m4 would be my choice i say that as an s4 owner. The s4 and c43 represent the entry point into audis and mercedesamgs performance midsedan ranges. If this adventure is a daring daylight probe into the upper reaches of a driver s pulse rate, which it is, then it sets up the expectation that the.
Who doesnt love an e46 m3 unfortunately a clean manual is hard to come by these days without paying a price. My e46 m3 or a 928 s4 help please pelican parts forums. M3, m235i, porsche, s4, camaro ss, mustang gt, wrx sti. The s4 is a fourdoor sedan, but its back seat isnt much better than the twodoor m3 s, and it is far smaller than the ctsvs. Regardless of the rear wheel drive the car has plenty of grip around corners and your m dynamic settings can control how much % of control you have vs the car. The s4 s interior feels genuinely premium and, while the bmw m3 is fast, the s4 is nearly as quick for noticeably less money. Leaps and bounds above the c63s which is only offered in an automated manual. By jon levy its no secret to golf nerds like me, at least that 2017s revamped taylormade m1 and m2 drivers fell flat to expectations. Difference between audi a4, s4, and rs4 yahoo answers. Nov 21, 2017 among these s models, the audi s4 and s6 are two popular options, and with two of the longest histories.
Time for a lament about the way things used to be, about the way technology has crowded out driver involvement. I want to know the positives and negatives of each car. Taylormade m2 driver test took place on the range and the course at saadiyat beach gc in abu dhabi. Id love an m3 and will have one one day but as a daily id go a brand new s4 over a used m3. You knew all that horsepower was going to come at a cost, and it does. Finally i can bring you my driving impression of my new b9 audi s4 avant. Disclaimer ive read a fair amount about rwd vs fwd vs awd in inclement weather. M3 and m4 taylormades epic answer colorado avidgolfer. S4 b8 platform discussion m3 vs s4s5 ive been thinking alot about this lately as im in the position to buy a new daily driver within the. The s4 was rated the best daily driver obviously, the evo was ranked the most fun, and the sti came out the slowest of the three.
We havent driven the s4 yet, but its hard to imagine audi. Hes not going to put the car on the track, but he does go on spirited drives on back roads. There are two trim levels for the 2018 audi s4, and they are both less expensive than the bmw m3. The m3 is the unquestioned performance winner, outhandling and overpowering the s4. With a 354horsepower v6 engine and eightspeed, allwheel drive, the s4 is. From someone that owns one, the audi is probably the best daily driver. The s4s interior feels genuinely premium and, while the bmw m3 is fast, the s4 is nearly as quick for noticeably less money. In the world of elite european high performance, there are the bmw m3 and the audi s4.
The current bmw m3 has been a 10best car every year since it was introduced in 95. Though considered not as cool as the bmw m3 back in the day, the b5 chassis audi s4 is quite sought after by enthusiasts today. The new taylormade m3 and m4 family of woods are led by a pair of drivers that seek to change the technology landscape of the category. As beloved as the e30 is to many auto enthusiasts, at some point theyre going to become too old to cost effectively use as a daily driver. The one im looking at has had the subframe replaced, the vanos locked down and the smg pump. The ats vsport ifwhen that comes out could be pretty good but still wont rival the luxury and quality of the s4. But im pretty sure the sti and evo featured in that clip were not usspec machines. The 2018 audi s4 is a 354 horsepower rocketsled that proves. What you need to know about taylormades m3 and m4 drivers. But bmw also rates the m3 at 425 hp from its turbo inlinesix engine, and it. Are they merely facsimiles of their gofaster stablemates, or properly desirable luxosports. Today we take a look at the not so talked about m3 competitor, the audi s4. I was hoping the 928 would be more reliable and that i could do more work on it than on my m3. It doesnt engage the driver and never feels warm to the touch, never invites the driver to push that bit further, and while.
Based on the already dynamically pleasing audi a4, the 2020 s4 adds horsepower and a sporttuned suspension to the mix to dial in the performance. The s4 is a better daily driver and will cost less to buy and consume less gas. According to lee, that makes the bmw m240i not only a better daily than the m2 but also one of the very best small sport coupes on the market. Its also the nicer to drive out of the pair its not quite as rigid which makes it more playful, and comes with grab handles, which is something you wont find in the m4. What works for you, might not work for others, as daily driver. The s4 makes up for the lack of space with elegant surface. Jun 16, 2016 yea, s4 and m3 havent been competitors for almost a decade mow. I drove 2020 m2 comp, its good but not as good as gt350. Each issue of gear patrol magazine is a deep dive into product culture. The 2018 audi s4 and 2018 bmw m3 are very close competitors.
The standard audi a4 is the best driving version ever, with agile handling and a compliant ride offering a great. I actually did find a video clip from the british tv show top gear that compared the s4 to the sti and evo. S4 is just that step back from a racer and one of the reasons i went for an s3 over and rs3 albiet i i did get a tune on the s3 lol. I live in co and currently have a 2010 e92 m3 as daily driver. Or likely even the daily use practicality provided by quattro and 30mpg either. To be honest the s4 isnt even in the same category as the m3 4. Bmws projected sales figures show that the m4 will outsell the m3 by seven times. The m3 checks in at a trim 3394 pounds, less than the s4 by 470 pounds, and 257 pounds under the c32. Jan 21, 2015 the s4 s power is transferred through a sevenspeed sequential manual or sixspeed traditional manual transmission. The s4 is a more driverfocused derivative of the modestly sized a4 sedan. May 27, 2018 decided to do a fun comparison between these cars to see which one you would rather have on a day to day basis. Jan 02, 2018 twist face technology in the taylormade m3 and m4 driver may change the face of the game forever. Important question from cds crack team of medical specialists. But you know, during the commuter time, i often get traffic jams.
More driver focused, fast, reliable etc, offered in a manual and dct. Car and driver magazines comparison test of the audi s4 quattro, cadillac ctsv and the mercedesbenz c55 amg. In terms of performance, the bmw 340is 320 hp is almost 30 more than the audi s3s 292 but it weighs a good 200 lbs more, so it evens out a bit. Its about a daily driver that can tussle with mustangs, but doesnt have to make you smile. The bottom line the bmw m340i is a heck of a daily driver with potent. We dive deep into what makes taylormade the best golf drivers of them all. I have a 2001 e46 m3 that i have had since new, and use it as a daily driver in all types of weather these cars are made for driving, after all.
The m3 is a better overall car but i hate the interior and would probably not buy one based on that. From our tv show, to podcast, to youtube content, and even meetups, glimpse all we do in this quick minute. But unlike others who have stretched the boundaries of new. I looked briefly at a m3, but until you got into the competition package with the mods on the s4 it wasnt much of a step up. Ok, e46 m3 or clk55 or audi s4 b6 pelican parts forums. The 2018 audi s4 is a perfectly good car if you dont need sex appeal. Jan 02, 2018 the new taylormade m3 and m4 family of woods are led by a pair of drivers that seek to change the technology landscape of the category. Jan 08, 2018 the response needed to be extraordinary, weighty, momentous. Its hard to pick a clear winner in this contest, but we think the new audi s4 just edges ahead of the bmw m3 despite its slightly softer focus and lower powered engine. Jul 14, 2015 nextgen audi s4 vs bmw 340i vs mercedes c400. Just the weight difference alone makes the m3 a much. Taylormades primary concern with its new m3 and m4 drivers is superior forgiveness achieved by the new twist face. I think the rs4 is of course more powerful, and a bit more stylish, but is that it.
The name has changed, but taylormades m4 driver remains the most forgiving model in the lineup. So that ability to make your family hauler, daily driver, weekend, car, and track car into one car is a steal. For similar or even more money than an e90 m3, i just struggled with irrationally rationalizing the s4. James and thomas take the new 2020 bmw m340i and pit it against the 2019 audi s4 and the 2019 mercedesbenz c43 amg. The 330i costs more but i think he would get similar performance. I dont know if i could ever get one without being disappointed on a daily basis that it didnt come in manual. Both cars brilliantly combine the comfort and usability of regular automobiles with the ridiculous performance of impractical exotics.
This car may be the most decorated soldier in the history of car and driver. If you dont need 4 doors and want a great track car, go m3. What it lacks in practicality and refinement as a family daily driver is more than compensated for by the driving experience. Three of the best cars on gods earth run hard in the german countryside, without complaint. Go quattro if you will use it as a daily driver in an area that snows. A few more yards gained from somehow lowering the cg again. From our tv show, to podcast, to youtube content, and even meetups, glimpse all. The 460cc driver comes in a package thats 15 percent lighter than m3 and features a. C55 will have alot of balls but has a tiny back seat like the is. The first winter that i had it, i got 4 17 m contour replica rims and a set of blizzaks.
Ever since allison feldhusen bought her audi s4 avant new on july 20, 2001. In audis lineup, its genuinely difficult to choose a better daily driver than the a6 avant. Whenever that time, id perfer to listen to some music from the car. The s4 is much heavier and less powerful than the v8 m3, the s4 has a great engine that has torque all day long and is a blast on the street and track. Are you getting your recommended daily allowance u. Brian bazzel, vice president of product creation at taylormade, introduced the new face to five of the companys top players dustin johnson, justin rose, jason day. It is, in fact, more in line with the bmw 335i and mercedesbenzs c400. Among these s models, the audi s4 and s6 are two popular options, and with two of the longest histories.
When cadillac unveiled the atsv at the 2015 detroit auto show, the automotive world was eager to see how it fares against the new bmw m3 and m4. Driver carroad connection is a lot better in gt350 than in m2. May 01, 2003 2003 audi s4 v 2003 bmw m3 v 2003 mb c32 amg. The s4 just turned over 160k kms so all warranty is gone and this is something you should be aware of, things arent cheap to fix. Fujitsu recommends that customers update endurance software.